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[Deniz Erenler]

Selamlar,
bu bolge hakkinda Iskenderunlu pilotlardan Sn.Talat Kara, bu bolgede guzel ucuslar yapilabileceginden, gecmiste buraya gelen Holandali pilotlarin bu
bolgeden bir cok ucus gerceklestirdiginden bahsetmis. Bende hem merakli hemde bu bolgede ucmayi hep isteyen biri olarak hemen kisa bir arastirma
yapayim dedim, Hollandaca kaynaklardan elime gecesi BEDELSIZ TERCUME BUROSUNDAN burada hizmetinize sunuyorum. Bu ve bundan sonraki,
burasi ile ilgili Hollandali kaynaklarin yazdiklarindan hareketle devamini getiririz

BASLAR
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Hollandali bir pilotun flemenkce seyahat anilarindan babelfish ile ingilizce tercumesi (HOLLANDA LA BAMBA !!)


http://www.parapente.nl/form.htm
s early catches morning. And the train to Schiphol. Exactly arrived on time and made with the group knowledge: Mart, Andr -- 3rd, Frits, Matthijs, franc and Fred. And Wim would come with the car by means of Syria. Namen remembers! The flight goes by means of Istanbul to Adana and then still a dikke 2 hours with busje, to our pension (villa). at night leaves. .. . Rain, wind and storm. At the villaatje appears that the flow refusees from time to time. Therefore none lifts and warm water. One toilets with shower, and one below which it breaks down already rapidly. Fortunately we can see our beer, thanks to the gaslampen. Tja!, something less luxuriously as in Oludeniz. The next day, back and forth drive, between far from each other the located fly ticks. Too much wind, rain and cold. Do not fly therefore, but a wind waterspout seen. And that makes up for the day a small beetje. 10th at last the our first flight made. That was glijvluchtje of 500 meters. Nothing particular, but if you have not flown a year. At landing Mart in the shrubs disappeared almost, and I in the drain. Tja!, you do not have more slowly will fly also at your landing. Certainly not, when Frits with its porto stand, for you on the high altitude airport. On therefore to ours 2e escapes, overmoedig to another vliegstek. No good choice, because Ptt-link lay full there snow and were something too much wind. IJzig cold! Especially with too little clothing. Not everyone this way little as frank, which not really lively in its overhemd zat. Later glad, because he has been possible lend nevertheless still windstoppertje of André. Underway turned to this splendour stek, almost with our car. Leak link in the turning! Our car had to thus a particular heavy rack there our transport pents. It lasted terribly long honour the reserve there on zat. Time therefore for an afternoon time. Consumed in restaurantje, at supermarktje, a Turkish hamburger. And in the supermarktje, "alarm". I became for a robber since (...........). I n.l. in the Netherlands had bought Turkish/ned. notebook. And in this zat the magneetstripje still. (No! Not in the Netherlands pinched and in Turkey catches!) ` s evening many tales of André and that make up for this day also. 11th asked on, to stand on time on the slope of 60 km to further located vliegstek. But the leak makes link at a garage costs much time. Fortunately getting we coffee or tea, but....... on path and halfway the mount break there there beugeltje of the dynamo. V-snaar eraf. And after a time organised transit come pick up our. The start area is not much improves then the year before. Of what I made up from the tales, there gouden mounts must be. But here and there a kei lies there still once. My first start started thus with a head role on the rocks. Second start went but much gemompel concerning the porto. At 2e escapes Frits had preceded me, but as from the other side of the slope. Wind had been again twisted. I could therefore as first to a new landing spot with purple flowers. There above to see I that cows walked around there and that the flowers were yellow. Therefore nevertheless but already the area earlier ended up taken. Then we almost all landed products, with 2 meiden and 2 boys came collide a car there. One of it ran immediately swaying and handkusjes distributing on our finished. Really snooze
She asked if we spoke Turkish or Arab. Jammer that André there was not yet, because she had also a splendid hairy umbilical point. Underway to our pensionnetje it became always wetter under our feet and had we the pents from time to time move over. There zat an old man beside our, with a pocket snow. Fresh of the mount. Many children sway and many people ask what we do here. And that questions we then to André. ` s evening the range, old vissersbootjes examined, there where Mart found the fish, however, nice. And still even archeological research done, at the unearthing near the pen-sion. And, and Matthijs recover our kachel-specialist weet there also still a couple. 12e I was, however, heal early on to take a shower. André had continue wait in the living room. And that ` s best, however, risky. This day had we the city in, because André and our host had chatter with the head of tourism and had sign a declaration. The head of tourism proved be a woman with beautiful half-measures. And we had listen to that therefore long. We the city, and run by tegeltjes-museum. Outside sitting on plastic stoeltjes, we all together kebab have worked to within. Still pain in my jaws. What can be them large, which kebabs! at noon to Ptt-link and it is good fly. Frits, Fred, franc and Wim are stuck already in air, but I continue sit with of my tockels and to Right am put and a bit concerning the rocks dragged. Nothing break, but my image in pieces. Rockly-hard if I are, I say thus that I it keeps this day for seen. Matthijs leave good and then Mart, which when he not yet is present in the free space, keep 2 tockels in a hand. To Right it are put and gets inklapper, what ie not even saw. (yes!, we fly with good material) go once more to its zitje frummelen, and come then in real problems. On the rocks it was almost thrown. Corrects well, but ended up nevertheless between the shrubs. The bikkel has left afterwards nevertheless still well. In the meantime was there below a Turkish film plough for filming. And a day later we that extended on the news are able see again. Tja! And ` s evening fell for zoveelste the time it slightly from! 13e! During the breakfast we hear our driver terribly gases with the cold diesel. He had filled the engine to the cam to with oil, and found it strange that ie will leak. t was for him the first time that ie to olie-peilstok looked at. And still with twisting engine! But, No Problem! Because the local vegetable farmer was chartered with its transit. On to the city, because it blows with such a wind strength of seven or considers. We have had a theoretical cursus of our host. That ounce will explain how an English man had here gesoard. Spread out with its poor running of one to the other side of the hillock. He seems real on Manuel! (I know nothing!) We have all together been present in the they attachment. We had been this way surprised that we forget were bargain. A real chaotic rondrit by the city. Time for turks-bad. And that was fantastic! Goh!, what can franc laugh and Matthijs shout if they are taken by a real hairy Turk under hands. Fortunately under hands. Fred and Wim underwent the cool. And I? I am silent! After the gescrub and sweated feel themselves you as reborn. And that is or a biertje worth. On to the boulevard, where André, Mart and had fled Frits the city. It was really now will blow. And according to them, the pieces steel flew by air. Above sea thus a huge substance cloud of sand hung and plastic falls.
On to the TV, because would see being 20.00 parapente on the news. One long hours news and no.....wij are fed up! To the pension. None lifts and no water. 14e much wind, therefore t will become, however, no fly day. Baked at the breakfast a mix omelette, egg or cooked. Slack coffee and strong tea. Thus, what you pour is sometimes gamble. But they are pleasantly and do their best. Onderhand are it really nicely to t become. On to the thuisstek and we have a kei-gavekei-gave kei-gave escape. Everyone country somewhere else. Fast catching and up. Children try help your. And we take even a couple up. And we have real conversations with them. Ehh... Hollanda Labamba enzo.... The next flight is also shining. We try come to the range, what only succeeds according to me, Wim and Frits. And we land in lands. A beetje pleasantly laughs to the farmer and in my best Turkish questions if it is well. And the farmer puts its inch omhoog. Mat-thijs got almost another finger to see, but that is possible beure. After a couple days tries our host get the generator to the praat, what succeeds eventually. After the beer is cooled and we gedouched has, we let us sit stare to the roof. And our host starts, laugh because water clashes concerning the edge of the tank which stands on the roof. The pump continues do, where he is made for. 15e rapidly on gone to Ptt-link. Not really a good choice. Becomes more badly and we have been stupid on the thuisstek not remain. Firstly then but beugel-tje of the dynamo leave mows, because those do not keep it long more. We return and are loudly entertained by the children. Yes! We get already a real link with them. We take a couple up. It is foggy! But we go. We get a compass and leave in the fog. The ultimate sensation! And it becomes still more terrible, when frank is rijkunsten will show on a rest. We have decided eat to go, but Frits are communicate this to forget. And we also. But Frits get the debt! The chickens sit n.l. already in the furnace. And if we drive back to the pension. The meesten of our on the roof (can dangerous be, when you sit film turned and no branch sees arriving. Auw! Fred, thank for the warning) it seem or people know that we leave. The children run along behind the car, and shout "Hollanda, La Bamba!". They sway and everyone is lively! Because we leave!? Wrong I have made, by giving notebook my Turkish/ned to of the children. Those we see again therefore, however, a time! We take farewell of Wim, which there still a couple sticks days achteraan, honour he drive back. 16th for 15.45 on, because the same route must we. Our vegetable farmer picks up our. And he must firstly still even aftanken. Firstly just as, and jawel hoot the pump assistant awoken for our noses. But contracts slightly, and pump. But firstly the petrol capsule must there still finished. Oei! Problem and André sits look at already on its modern watch and at shaken! After what oil and petrol from the snake to have spouted and eventually with the experienced aid of André, it expires nevertheless still good. And, we ourselves will not improve our landing on Schiphol are able do.
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TERCUMESI ::

Schipol (hollandada havalimani) 6-7 kisilik bu gurup tam vaktinde toplanip (WIM denen sahis araba ile SURIYE ustunden gelecekti !! der) Istanbul / Adana ustunden 2 saatlik bir otobus seyahatinden sonra kalacaklari oansiyona (villa - herhalde Fadil Ergin"in yeri olsa gerek) geceyarisi varmislar. Yagmur, Ruzgar, FIRTINA !! icinde
Villa"da zaman zaman elektrik ?? yoktu bu sebepten sicak su ve isitmada ?? iki katta duslu bir tuvalet vardi ama ikide birde bozuluyordu. Allahtan GAZ LABBASI
vardida BIRA"larimizi gorebiliyorduk . . Aeeeh isteeee . . Oludenizden biraz daha az komforlu !! bir yer. . ertesi gun bir birinden uzakta olan kalkis pistleri arasinda
dolasma, ileri/geri surme ile gecti . . Cok fazla yagmur, ruzgar ve soguk vardi.. DENIZDE OLUSMUS BIR HORTUM gorduk . .Bu sebepten ucamadik
sonunda ayin 10"unda ilk ucusumuzu yaptik. 500 metreden . . onemli bir ucus degil ama bir sene ucmamissaniz iyi geliyor .. Mart isimli arkadasi calilarin arasinda
inip kaybolmus buda kotu bir yere . . ppt linkli kar icinde kalmisti hava cok rugzarli ve soguktu vesair diye devam ediyor .. yani pek memnun gorunmuyorlar
ayin 11.de 60 kilometre ileride bir yere gitmisler (yolda araba bozulmus baska birsey gelmis vesair) kalkis alani gecen seneden beri elden gecmemis hicbir duzeltme
yapmamislar der (demek daha evvel gelmis !!) 12.ucus yapabilmisler galiba ?? anlamadim .. 13.)de hava gene berbat (cok kuvvetli ruzgar) bizi misafir eden bize (Fadil Ergin ??) teori dersi veriyor. Burada kalkista yavas kosan bir ingiliz pilotun basina gelenleri anlatmis !! Sahisla MANUEL (bu John Cleese"in BBC"de yayinlanan
eski bir komedi dizisinde, kendisi karisi ile otel isletmecisi vede calisan garson Barcelona Ispanya"dan vede ismi Manuel, ingilizce pek bilmez vede soru soruldugunda
hep "i know nothiiiink i am from Barselonaaa der . . " yani dalaga geciyorlar bir sebepten burda onlari konuk edenle !!) daha sonra hamama gitmisler keselenmisler
hava korkunc ruzgarli berbat otele donuyorlar hicbirsey calismiyor su yok . . 14.unde gebe cok ruzgar var vede uculmuyor .. ev sahibi biralari sogutmak icin sonunda
generatoru calistirmaya razi oluyor ?? 15.inde hava sisli yanlarina pusula alip gezmeye gidiyorlar . . etraftan cocuklar gelip arabalarinin etrafinda kosup "HOLLANDA, LA BAMBA !!!" diye bagiriyorlarmis ?? Wim arabayla geri donuyor (Suriyeye ??) 16.sinda 15:45"te geldikleri gibi geridonus yolculuguna basliyorlar.


BITER
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ben bu yazdiklarindan bu seyahatten buyuk bir keyif aldiklarini anlamadim ??? ya siz ???


Saygilar/Deniz Erenler

[Deniz Erenler]

http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/batoco/message/2400 (yeni kurulan bu arjantin deltakanat yahoo gurubunda 6 Aralik 2000 gunu, dunyadaki delta kanat internet
siteleri icin o zaman "copernic arama motoru" ile yapilan bir aramanim sonuclari arasinda . .Fadil Ergin"in 2002 Senesi Eylul ayindan itibaren Aktif Delta Kampi
icinde havasporlari, dalis sporlari ve macera turlari duzenleyecegi soylenmis. asagida linki verilen internet sayfasi calisimiyor, kisa tanitimda kisin yaz havasi olan,
2000 metre yukseklige ulasan 200 kilometre uzunlugunda bir dag sirasi vede tertemiz sulari bulunan bir yerden bahsediliyor
45. Hang-Paragliding site in Turkey
Fadil Ergin Delta Active Camping for airsports, diving sports and
adventures. ( Opening september 2002, Turkey ) A region with a summer
climate in December, twohundred kilometers mountain chain, twothousand
meters high, the cleanest seawater,
http://sites.netscape.net/deltacamping

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http://www.bigairparagliding.com/Sitesd ... %20Camping BigAir Paragliding sayfalarinada 9 kasim 1999 tarihinde kisa bir
tanitim (Hollanda"da telefon numarasi vererek) yazisi vede gene ayni (simdi calismayan) internet sitesine link verilmis. .

Kisaca, Hollandadan ucus meraklilari tarafinda Turkiyede acilan yeni bir yer, guzel ruzgar !! var vede bir suru RAMPA ??? (deltakanat yani yelkenkanat
icin . .) var der ??

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Simdi efm, Fadil beyin bu eski sayfasina artik ulasilamiyor. Bolge ile ilgili bilgileri diger Iskenderun"lu bolge pilotlari ile biraraya gelip, elindeki

- Belge
- Ani
- Resimler/Haritalar
- Gps rotalari
- Kalkis ve Inis Pistlerinin durumunu aciklar bilgi/cizim ve fotolar
- Konaklama /Ulasim bilgileri

tekrardan bir guncellestirip bir yerlerde toparlayabilirlerse gercekten, 2005 senesinde bir guzel is daha cikarmis olurduk !!! ..

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Deniz Erenler

[Deniz Erenler]

http://www.e-lijn.nl/archief/Week%20MM%2029.txt
Wie heeft ervaringen opgedaan in Konacik? Ik ben benieuwd naar de vliegomstandigheden
voor 2B piloten (kwaliteit&bereikbaarheid start/landingsplekken; thermiek; weer
in november; etc)...

Tijdens de jaarwisseling ben ik er met een groep van PAHO geweest. Ook ParaAdventure/Wieringa
heeft er gevlogen. Er zijn diverse starts mogelijk voor alle windrichtingen.
Met jeep en truck wordt alles naar boven gebracht. We verbleven in een woning
van familie van de oprichter, de Rotterdammer Fadil Ergin. Dit was een tijdelijke
oplossing. Er wordt gewerkt aan een camping met onderkomens en faciliteiten.
Meer informatie, waaronder Fadil z'n 06 nummer vind je op
http://sites.netscape.net/deltacamping.

Jos Kuntzel


Who has gained experiences in Konacik? I have been aroused curiosity to the fly circumstances for 2B piloten (kwaliteit&bereikbaarheid start/landing spots; thermiek; in November; etc)... During the turn of the year I have been with a group of paho. Also ParaAdventure/Wieringa have flown. There its several start possibly for all wind directions. With jeep and truck everything are up brought. We stayed in a house of family of the oprichter, the rotterdammer Fadil Ergin. This was a temporary solution. It is worked for a camp-site with onderkomens and facilities. Further information, among which Fadil find his 06 number you on http://sites.netscape.net/deltacamping. Jos Kuntzel
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sahis 1957 dogumlu Hollandali eski bir Birlesmis Milletler askeri (Blue Helmet), 1979da 21 yasindas Lubnan"da gorev yapmis (yani yakinlarda) http://www.rivium.com/jos/Kuntzel.htm sahsi kendi ismi ile anilan (sulaleden buyugu) caddenin onunde poz vermis sekilde gorebilirsiniz
butun sulaleside kendi gibi asker belliki .. uzmanlik alani FLIGHT SIMULATORS yani ucus simulatorleri .
http://www.flightsim-forum.com/flight-s ... 33430.html Flight Simulator Forumu .

neyse ;

Konacik"ta ucan oldumu hic, birinden duydum, kasim ayinda termikler nasi, kalkis inis alanlarinin durumu vesair). sene sonunda bir gurup hollandali yamacparasutcusu ile (PAHO - Paragliding Holland) beraberdim. Ayni zamanda PARADVENTURE (baska bir hollandali klup) Wierinda"da burda ucmus. Her istikamete cesitli kalkis olanaklari varmis. Jip veya Kampyonla hersey kalkis pistine tasinabiliyormus. Burayi bulan Rotterdam"li FADIL ERGIN"in evinde kaldik. Bu gecici bir cozumdu.
kendisi burada tam donanimli bir kamp alani yapmaya calismaktadir. Daha fazla bilgili kendisine yandaki internet sitesinden ulasarak alabilrisiniz demis, ama bu
sayfa artik calismiyor/bulunamiyor . . Demekki Fadil bey zamaninda ugrasti net ustunden bir takim reklam vesair icin sonra her ne sebeptense ilgilenip takip edemedi
bu sayfayi veya artik nedir bilemiyoruz . .


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Deniz Erenler

[Deniz Erenler]

http://www.paragliding.nl/bergvliegen/koacik.html (hollandaca"dan altavista ile ingilizceye -olabildigince- cevirisi asagida)

(zannederim 2000 senesi sonu Kasim ayi gibi buraya ucus turu duzenlemek isteyen Holandal i bir acentanin hazirlamis oldugu tanitici bir sayfa olsa gerek. ne oldu bilemiyorum ama ayni yerin 2005 senesinde Turkiyeye duzenledikleri seyahatler sadece Oludeniz"e . . yani Iskenderun"a devam etmemisler . .vardir elbet bir
sebebi !!)

there are a region which you can call parapente vliegparadijs then are, however, the "Koacik" at the bay of Iskenderun entirely in the extreme Z.O. of Turkey. Vliegloze a day is here almost impossible by the microclimate which ensures also in the winter short trousers. Also then the sea at least degrees still 16 is. Hard wind seldom throws fumagine in eating, however, is every day "see-breeze" those interminable soarvluchten there possible makes. Put you for: enormously on 4.5 km of our villa there is 1500 m. high start spot within a half hour which to reach is and where you can remain almost always above. There are other fly spots there still 15 and if you love..Als cross-countrycross-country cross-country... your Oludeniz know, with that "Koacik" are compare. The mounts are rounder and not this way rocky and savage, the tops are not present this way rapidly in the clouds, there is no forester mafia which there seldom asks toll and it regent. If you take along a partner needs whom because not to annoy itself there is do a lot:
archaeological curiosities
mountainbiken
wildwaterkano
rafting
bergklimmen
to dive
to fish
particular sea excursions
Pleasant there it that is (still) no mass tourism exists. Is Turkey in fact, however, safe? Sad is that tourism had walked back last year considerably because koerden and Turks made problems with each other whereas you in France still approximately 10 time makes this way much chance to be deprived. THE PKK have certainly now laid down the arms is it decides safely.

We stay in the villa of our friend Fadil Ergin (an experienced delta pilotpilot pilot) in 2 a 3 our chambers, ample breakfast, fantastic diner, each day indefinite citrusfruit eats because the new harvest is ripe and indefinite (nice) coffee and tea. Fadil are a "active holiday" centre for setting up. Warning: You go not at in all kinds of sternly, there absurdity price are counted. Fadil also s'avonds our guide will be show and the original Turkish occasions.

Also beginners are welcome there are good oefenhellingen and the start and landing places are seldom difficult.

This year do not go we to Konacik, we have 3 other new bestemingen, but in the future....

Provisionally look under ours mount programme to another bergcursus, to another location.
For more information concerning our bergcursussen return, svp, to our start page... (PARAGLIDING - how I start in the mounts or ev. programme programma-cursussen in the mounts).


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Fadil Ergin"in mustakil evinde 2-3 kisilik odalarda kalacagiz, orada yiyip icecegiz, Fadil ayni zamanda bizim (ucus ve turist) rehberimiz olacak der. Fadil"in evi

1500 metre irtifadaki kalkis pistine 4,5 kilometre mesafede, ulasmasi yarim saat kadar suruyor der. Oludenizi bilirseniz, burda daglarin tepesi daha yuvarkak/yumusak

kivrimli, daha az kayalik ve daha az tasli, kalkis tepesi/pisti ikide bir bulut icinde kalmiyor vede ORMAN MAFYASI (para odeme) yok demis .. Hergun DENIZ MELTEMI

var bu sebepten yelken ucus mumkun oluyor vesair demis . .gerisi refakatte gelenler icin turistik bilgi . .iste kisin deniz suyu 16 derece, kisa pantalonla gezebilir vee shubou faaliyetleride yapabilirisiniz . . fransadan daha emniyetliderde pkk teroru kalmamistir vesair . .



Saygilar/Deniz Erenler

[talatkara]

slm uçan arkadaşlar:ilk önce deniz sn.deniz erenlere teşekkür etmek istiyorum araştırmış valla ne diyeyim ben bu kadar arştırmamıştım.

gruba yazdığım yazıda 'mış'larla söz etmiştim ben kendim uçmadım ama en kısa zamanda bi kaç antrenman uçuşu sonrası gidip orada uçmak istiyorum.ben fadıl beyle hiç tanışmadım ben fazıl beyle tanıştım ve onun anlattıklarından yola çıkarak bu turist mevzularını sizlere anlatmıştım.

beni acizanebilgilerimden yola çıkarak sabah saatlerinde yp uçuşları olur öğleden sonra esen rüzgarlar yk için güzel olacağnı söylemiştim. yani bu gelen insanlarala ben birebir ilgilenmedim.

bizim şu andaki amacımız bu insanları tekrar buraya getirmek dir.araç konusu konoklama konusunda bi problem yok.bağlantılarımızı güçlndirip buraları şenlendirmek derdimiz umarım hevesimiz kursağımızda kalmaz.

saygılarım talat kara

[ta2mmy]

sayın Talat beye belen çıkışından kırıkhana geçişte [sol taraf kırıkhan gözüküyor ] yp uçuşları için müsait olup olmadığını sormak istiyorum.gelebilirim.

[talatkara]

slm kırıkhan taraflarındaki tepelerde sadece eğitim uçuşları yapabilirsiniz onun dışında başka bi uçuş olmaz.ama iskenderun take off dan uçabilirsiniz 1215 metre deniz seviyesinden iskenderun a herzaman beklerim tlf 0505 340 80 41 veya 0326 6152033 görüşmek üzere

[ta2mmy]

vermiş olduğunuz bilgi için teşekkür ederim talat bey senede 2 defa şimdilik 10 ar günlüğüne payas ta konaklamalarım oluyor 2. memleketim diyebilirim sizinle en kısa zamanda irtibata geçeceğim. selamlar

[fer-gini]

sayin arkadaslar 11ay once Turkiyeye dondukten sonra zaman bulup tesadufen bu foruma ulasabildim. f-ergin ve ucus bolgemiz uzerine yazilan metinler cok ilginc...Ozellikle ben tarzanca yabanci dil konusan birisi olarak tarif edilmisim!!!,Bu derecede negatif bir yaklasimla yazilan bu yaziyi okudugumda aklima gelen:
-Hollandada ucus okullari arasinda dusmanca rekabetten kaynaklandigini sandigim bir nedenle veya
-yamac parasutunde popularitesi artan Turkiye`ye yonelen turizmi tekrar kendi cikarlarina olan bildik rotalara gitmesinin devamini saglamak icin,
-yada bu kisinin herhangi bir okulla veya kurumla baglantisi vardir ve cikarlarinin zedelendigini dusunuyorum!!!

Tum arkadaslara sevgi ve saygilarimla guzel ucuslar diliyorum. Amanoslarda ucmak isteyen arkadaslar bilgilendirme ve yardim icin lutfen [email protected] adresinden ulasabilirler.

Bu sozler Paho(Paragliding Holland) Hollandanin en buyuk ucus okulunun sahibi Jaap Eringa`ya aittir. Amanoslardaki Ptt Link noktasi icin soylenmistir.Sizler icin aracisiz cevireyim.

"Droom Berg van Paragliding sport"
"paragliding sporcusunun ruyasindaki dag"

f-ergin-
[email protected]

[Karaömer]

Demekki Deniz Bey'in bu rekabetten haberi yok. Veya bilip öğrenmeden birlerini burdan karalıyor mu acaba?

[eunal]

Artık aktif olarak uçsak mı iskenderun'da...ben kanadı alınca yani ne dersin mehmet ve talat abi..

bu arada talat abi geçen seni aradım..bir ufak kız evde olmadığını söyledi.
bilgilerine..

görüşürüz..saygılar

[Karaömer]

Emre Merhaba biz İskenderun'da artık düzenli olarak uçuyoruz.

Kar kı demeden hem de:)...